Looks like the site is based in the Phillipines or SE Asia. But articles are pulled from numerous sources. I was unable to find the article about the change in magazines, so the "Librarian" may have taken it down.
JV
i've noticed that a lot of topics on his site seem to come from here, and the verbiage seems the same.
it's like he's taking stuff from here and posting it there.
one recent thing that was posted had to do with the confidential letter about the smaller mags, and boy did the jws ever bust his chops for revealing things before jehovah's time.. does the librarian post here?.
Looks like the site is based in the Phillipines or SE Asia. But articles are pulled from numerous sources. I was unable to find the article about the change in magazines, so the "Librarian" may have taken it down.
JV
please let me know the age of the youngest child getting baptised.. i knew of a girl of 11 years.. .
I was 10 when baptized. Most of my JW friends were in the same boat. Those who weren't baptized weren't considered "real JWs" even though their parents were.
JV
please let me know the age of the youngest child getting baptised.. i knew of a girl of 11 years.. .
Sorry - system double posted...
JV
an open letter to the body of elders, .
sudbury (suffolk) congregation of jehovah's witnesses.. .
on wednesday, april 4, 2012, the decision will be carried out to announce to the congregation that, rory sullivan is no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.. .
Rory-ks: Very well written. Look for a PM.
JV
i use usualusername as i am not creative enough to think of anything sexier.... .
what significance is there behind your profile name?.
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Juan Viejo = "Old John"
I'm old.
My name is John.
2 = the second
This is my second JWN account using the pseudonym "Juan Viejo." I was unable to access my original account after an extended absence due to technical difficulties.
JV
please let me know the age of the youngest child getting baptised.. i knew of a girl of 11 years.. .
Nancy Sage, in her book Going Undercover to Rescue My Daughter, reports that she was baptized in 1941 at the St. Louis International Convention. She was one of the children in the group that heard J. F. Rutherford's speech that released the book "Children." She was born in 1933 and was not yet eight years old. So at seven, she would not be a record for the youngest, but would prove to anyone doubting that "baby baptisms" were common and approved at the highest levels that they have been taking place for decades.
It's funny that the Watchtower criticizes the Catholic Church and other denominations for "christening" babies, but what is the difference? Yes, six and seven year olds are going to school and can speak for themselves, but they certainly have not reached the "age of maturity." They can not vote, drive a car, live on their own, or hold a job. And yet the Watchtower feels that they can make a lifelong commitment that will affect their lives and relationships for their entire future at those tender ages.
This is another example of the hypocrisy of the Watchtower's leadership, both secular and theologically. I think a few lawsuits are in order to take them to task for applying disfellowshipping rules and enforced shunning against anyone baptized under the age of sixteen.
JV
i was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.
in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.
they both are undergoing major remodels.
Here is an article that explains how KH upgrades and builds were done in the past. http://ex-jw.com/kingdom-halls-who-owns-them
Menlo Park (CA) Kingdom Hall is a classic example of how the Watchtower HQ and the local RBCs work together to force upgrades and rebuilds on local congregations. The Watchtower makes sure that any upgrade or new construction is recorded as belonging to the corporation, not the local congregation.
Whether the Watchtower charges interest or not isn't important. The local brothers will not only pay for their new KH at a higher cost than could be acquired locally (in spite of mostly free labor), but the locals will also be paying monthly maintenance fees forever + their group donations for "the worldwide building work."
The real question is what does the WT use their donations (aside from KH payments) for? The reality is that the WT gets money from several different pools from every KH and Circuit, but returns little or none of it back to the local congregations.
What a scam! Ask for donations AND payments - and then take ownership of the land and building when everything is complete.
JV
1954 - 1968 jesus appeared in all publication pictures as a clean shaven short haired "witness" man....remember?.
watchtower 1954 p.511 q.f.r "why do watchtower books now show jesus with short hair and no beard?
....because he is shown that way in representations that are older then the traditional effeminate looking pictures...".
Amelia,
Maybe he does look like Jesus. I doubt JC ever wore eye liner...
JV
sure, the monkees were a pre-fabricated band, but their influence was still immeasurable.
especially mike nesmith.. .
rip davy.... .
I worked for the telephone company in Hollywood between 1966 and 1972. I visited Davy Jones' apartment on two occasions to fix his phone and would also see him from time to time crossing the street at Gower and Hollywood Blvd.
The very first time I met him was one night when I got off from work at the telephone company building at Gower and Sunset and walked all the way down Sunset Blvd. to Vermont Ave. to have breakfast at Norm's Restaurant. I was very poor in those days and at Norm's you could get a complete breakfast of eggs, bacon, potatoes, and coffee for 99 cents. That was often my main meal for the day. This short kid walks in and sits down next to me and orders the same 99 cent breakfast.
I didn't pay much attention to him at first. But when he spoke to the waiter I noticed his very pronounced British accent. I turned to him and asked if he was one of the Monkees? "Yea, I am. I'm the short one." I mentioned that I had seen him several times walking on Gower Street. "Yeah, I have a flat over near there," he replied. We both finished our breakfast and were ready to pay. I saw him count out all of the change in his pocket and he was about a nickel short. "Oh, damn!" he said, "I'm going to be washing dishes tonight." I offered to "loan" him a quarter to cover his bill. "Oh, that would be so kind of you. But could you loan me fifty? I want to tip the waiter." I agreed.
Several months later I was sitting in an ice cream shop at Western and Hollywood Blvd. taking a break. In comes Davy. It had been far too long for him to remember me, but I said "hi!" to him and held out my hand. "We had breakfast one night at Norm's."
"Oh yes. Of course! You are the telephone man. Don't I owe you some money?" I waved him off, and told him that it was well worth the 50 cents to have been able to chat with him for a while. He reached in his pocket and pulled out a $20 bill (quite a bit of money in those days) and slid it under my ice cream cup. "I hope this covers it for you. Things were tough then and I was barely surviving. But it's better for me now. "
I tried to refuse his offer, but he insisted. "But I tell you what. I'll have a chocolate shake and you can pick up my tab - OK?" (Shakes were about 75 cents in those days.) "We'll call it even," he said. And out the door he went.
I'd see him on occasion at Columbia and Paramount studios, but never had a chance to chat with him again. He seemed to be a bit shy, but very normal. He certainly did not seem to be full of himself, in spite of his growing success.
Davy was a pretty cool guy. I'll miss him...
JV
i had a phone call recently.
two elders want to come round.. now i ve been out for approx.
8 years.
Varian,
If you decide you want to meet with them, tell them that you left and do not want to return because:
1. You never felt any real love within the congregation
2. You felt that the elders did not care for you as a person, but only as someone to count as a member
3. You felt that the elders were only interested in gathering power and prestige for themselves - and not the interests of their flock.
4. You realized that everything was centered around two things: Watchtower's control of everyone's lives and MORE DONATIONS.
5. The whole concept of door-to-door field service has become a farce and that counting hours has become dishonest and of no value.
6. The meetings are so boring and structured. The Watchtower studies recycle the same information on a seasonal basis. Books are not worth the paper they are written on.
7. You've finally realized that the Watchtower is first and foremost a publishing corporation. To maintain its tax free status and to eliminate government oversight, they've wrapped themselves in a bogus religious theology.
jv